The Beyerdynamic We Love: DT770 Anniversary Edition

The Beyerdynamic We Love: DT770 Anniversary Edition

November 8, 2012 |  by  |  $300-$500, Full Size  | 

The DT770 LE is extremely easy to listen to, it’s very non fatiguing and you can use it for multiple hour listening sessions without any discomfort. This DT770 is very detailed and very clear sounding. There’s nothing offensive with its sound. Bass goes deep and can be punchy when needed but is sometimes a tad loose. The mids are very nice as well, they don’t sound like the typical Beyer mids, sounding fuller and more upfront. Treble extension is pretty good but you won’t get any of the hot treble you would think you would get, it’s very inoffensive. The sound stage is wider and especially deeper and more 3 dimensional as you would expect it to be as well. It is very balanced and fast! Overall that makes is a very easy to listen to, musical closed headphone. “Smooth and effortless” just as Mike described it already.  Did I mention it does great for all musical genres I threw at it?

Compared to the bassy and very fun sounding COP I recently reviewed, this DT770 has a bigger sound stage, more clarity and detail but less bass (depending on the setting of course). You could call this the audiophile version of the COP. Like Mike I think it wouldn’t be fair to compare this to the T70. The 70 was clearly made for a different crowd, a niche so to speak. The T70 is a very detailed, analytic and technical headphone. The good old Audio-Technica M50, one of my first headphones I owned, sounds a lot more forward and bright, with less body and bass. It’s also very clear but less detailed and a lot less musical. It do is more neutral or analytical to my experience. /Lieven

 

Amplifier Pairings

With its 32Ω and 1.6m OFC cable (Oxygen Free Copper) it is clear the LE version of this 770 was not only made for the studio but for the street as well. A new trend Beyerdynamic seems to be holding on to lately. While this version does not need amplification, I would suggest using an amplifier anyway. An iPod can drive it to serious volumes but volume isn’t everything and using an amplifier does give the sound more weight, detail & clarity. It controls the bass a bit better and there is the better sound stage. I wouldn’t see why you wouldn’t use an amp unless you wouldn’t have one available.

I used 4 amplifiers to test the DT770 LE: Our 2011 product of the year, the E10 mini dac/amp by Fiio, the JDSLabs C421, the Woo Audio WA2 OTL and the desktop sized Violectric V200. The E10 gives this 770 thicker mids and a looser more boomy bass but it also results in a smaller sound stage and less detail.  The C421 produces a wider sound stage with this Beyer and you get more detail and clarity with an excellent balance. Keep it on low gain at all time, high gain doesn’t do the sound good at all. The V200 is a bit powerful for this LE headphone. I had to put it at -12db gain to get it sounding it best. The best amp however, and that was quite a surprise, is the WA2 amp. Clarity, speed, detail but also sounding smooth and with excellent bass. I haven’t been able to stop listening to this combo, ask Mike he’s probably crazy about me raving about this Beyer by now…

Despite the lower impedance and the fact that you can boost the volume loud enough with an Ipod, an amp is still recommended. Without an amp, bass gets a little boomy and the soundstage is not as spectacular as it would with a good amp. I tried the LE with a number of different amps from the powerful Burson Soloist to the portable ALO National and Matrix M-Stage. All of these amps help a great deal in improving low end control and impact. 

 

 

 

End Words

What I do know is that DT770 anniversary was executed so well that it would be a pity to see this model being limited to some production number. It’s more expensive than the standard run DT770 (roughly ~$100 difference checking from the local Jaben), but I think it’s still very competitive at that price given the sound quality. For instance, personally, I would go for this anniversary DT770 over the AKG’s K550 or Shure’s SRH1840. Over the period when I had the DT770 LE, I barely used the HD650 which you all know I’m a big fan of. So, Beyer definitely has a contender with this one, and I’ve never been a Beyerdynamic fan. /Mike

The DT770 PRO Limited Edition 88 is available in the better stores. Online prices are between $200 and $250/140-200€ and as I said before only 4.000 will be made in 2012, so stop reading and run to the store, right now!

It is my favorite Beyer up to date, the COP gets the 2nd place and the DT990/600 comes in 3rd.  I can’t remember having enjoyed a headphone as much as I am enjoying this one, I’ve even been playing air guitar listening to Muse… So Happy birthday Beyerdynamic, you’ve made yourself and us music lovers a great gift for your 88th birthday!

 

 

 


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  • Edison

    how is the pairing with Audinst HUD-MX1?

  • jtr3

    I must be the only one who was a little disappointed with the LE bass impact. From this review I was ready to enjoy the bass and new-and-improved mids. For sure the mids are quite nice, definitely better than my old 770 Pros. But the bass is much lighter in these, and nowhere near the impact of something like the HE-400. That’s too bad.

    • dalethorn

      One problem I see is the earpad material doesn’t seal well to my head until it warms up a while, then the bass gets a little better. Even then it’s not a big impact like planars, which cost more and have their own issues.

      • jtr3

        I realize planers are not the fairest of comparisons, but my 20-year-old DT770s have considerably more impact, even unamped. I immediately noticed the fit being looser and less sealed, too.

        • dalethorn

          Did you try the new velour pads on the DT770LE?

          • jtr3

            No, I read that bass would be reduced. Should I try it? I have a new set of 770 velours that I just put on my old cans last week. Or are there differ velours just for the LE?

            • dalethorn

              If it’s hard to do or risks damaging the edges, then probably not worth doing. As far as I know Beyer sells the same pads for all 770s.

            • Mark Ferrosa

              That’s the price you pay for a detailed and balanced sound on this LE. Keep the old 770 If you like the bass. I’m selling my old Pro 80. I prefer my 770 AE.

              • http://www.headfonia.com Mike

                Plus and minuses. Yes the 80ohm has stronger bass impact, the LE more bass body.

              • jtr3

                The more I listen to these, the more I agree with you. It is the price I pay.

            • George Lai

              Hi, it just so happens I had an email from Beyerdynamic. They discourage using velours from 880/990 on the 770, and pleather from 770 onto the 880/990. Here in the humid tropics, pleather can be really warm and sticky and to alleviate that, sometimes I put those surgical mask type ear muff covers on my 770. It’s about USD5 for 50 pairs on Amazon.

            • George Lai

              I forgot. I didn’t get them from Amazon but from scansound.com. My bad.

            • http://www.headfonia.com Mike

              Velours usually reduce bass quantity, yes.

          • George Lai

            I finally managed to put the Beyer velour pads on the DT770LE. Suffice to say Barry White sounded like Lionel Richie. I guess Beyer knows what it’s doing.

            • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

              Some actually might prefer Lionel over Barry though ;)

              • George Lai

                That’s what the DT880 is for, Lieven

            • http://www.headfonia.com Mike

              :)

              Thanks for the update, George.

    • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

      We all like the bass. What amp are you using with the DT770 AE? Maybe the AE just is not bass heavy enough for you? have you tried the COP yet?

      • jtr3

        I’ve used both the O2 and the Meridian Explorer. I haven’t tried the COP, perhaps I should.

        I get used to the LE sound after listening for a while and enjoy it. Then I put on the old 600-ohm Pros and feel the bass impact I was missing, but loose a noticeable amount of mids in male/female vocals and acoustic guitar. The reason I haven’t tried the COP is I’m not sure if it would be a duplicate of one of the 770s I already have.

        • http://www.headfonia.com Mike

          Maybe you should check out the HD650 article. That headphone is synonymous with bass impact.

          • jtr3

            I remember reading that article and really enjoying it. I’ll try to audition the 650 at next months Head-Fi meet so I know for sure. I’m also curious about the T70, mostly because I’m a fan of Beyerdynamic comfort, but I don’t know how it will stack up in the low end.

            • http://www.headfonia.com Mike

              The T70 is tuned very clearly for monitoring. Sharp transients, almost no warmth, thin mids, very clean bass. I really don’t recommend it for music.

              • dalethorn

                T90?

                • http://www.headfonia.com Mike

                  I haven’t heard the T90, Lieven should be getting one.

                  • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

                    It arrived today. Forget about it if he needs bass

                    • http://www.headfonia.com Mike

                      Thanks, L

                    • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

                      Bass is good and very detailed but doesn’t have the Senn body, by far

        • dalethorn

          When I first read yesterday’s post, I grabbed the DT770LE and fired up a few FLACs with the Microstreamer DAC. I thought “yes, there isn’t a lot of bass impact”. But the bass can have way different impact depending on circumstances. When it’s quiet late at night or very early morning, and I put the LE on and give it a minute to settle, then listen without any distractions, the bass impact is very good. A stronger bass headphone in that same circumstance would not sound good. So keep the stronger one for other circumstances.

        • Burju

          Please do check if your Meridian Explorer is the original version(around 47 ohm on headphone out impedance) or the newer version (around 5 ohm) with lower impedance on its headphone out. If you using it solely thru headphone out, original Explorer sounds better with higher impedance headphone >300 ohm, lower impedance will sound like a big lost in bass impact. My HE400 lost its bass impact using explorer’s headphone out.
          Cheers

          • jtr3

            I have the original for now. While decreased damping factor will have some impact on bass with these 32-ohm cans on the ME, it doesn’t account for the same difference I observed when using the O2.

  • Guest

    Has anyone tried the Pico Slim with the LE? How’s the pairing?

    • dalethorn

      If you run that amp off of a good DAC it will sound spectacular with great bass definition. I don’t have the Pico Slim, but 2 headphone amps I run from the iphone LOD don’t have quite as good of bass detail with the DT770LE.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rogier-Schreurs/565592241 Rogier Schreurs

    Hey Lieven, wat vind jij een goede prijs voor een nieuwe dt770 32Ω LE?

    • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

      Hi. I’ll reply in English as we’d like everyone to understand. When the AE came out it was available in the Netherlands for 143€, prices in the US were a bit more expensive. I don’t think you can still get the AE from Beyer directly so that means it’s “sold out”. luckily for you 4 launch is still selling it for 143€. Get it before it’s gone… https://www.4launch.nl/shop/#p-4-productid-129333

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rogier-Schreurs/565592241 Rogier Schreurs

        Yeah, I thought i sent you a personal message haha. Alright thanks! This review keeps haunting me, maybe buying it will silence my demons ;)

      • dalethorn

        That’s a great price for a really good headphone.

        • Carl

          Dale, is there anything else around the 770 LE’s price that you would take over the 770? Just curious.

          • dalethorn

            As a closed headphone around $250 USD? Hard to say – the M100 from v-moda is $60 higher and too muddy without some bass reduction. The $200 Soundmagic HP100 is really good, but a little on the lean-sounding side for my taste. The Senn Amperior and Momentum have good sounds but cost $100 more, and I think the LE is at least as good. The Philips L1 is a possibility, but still has a pumped-up upper bass. The Shure 940 could work if you don’t mind stuffing some extra foams into the earcups to cut down the brightness. But right out of the box, I think the LE wins, and I hope they release a standard version. At less than $200, it would be killer.

            • Carl

              Thanks for those thoughtst! That’s a great one-paragraph summation of the headphone landscape in-and-around the LE’s terrain, really succinct and insightful.

              I was kinda just curious, as I have been thinking a little about the 770 LE & Philips L1 as possible 2nd ‘phones to my D600.

              Also, I’ve noticed that your opinion of various ‘phones performance hinges on changing their EQ using either desktop or i-device settings, which I never seem to see other reviewers do. This interests me for various reasons …
              I seem to recall that recently you stated in a comment that the LE was listenable to you only if you moderated its treble peak somehow? Does this also indirectly indicate that for you its ‘as is’ sound doesn’t by itself quite cut it?
              Anyway, thanks for your thoughts – I always find them interesting and both entertaining/informative and think you presence makes Headfonia an even better place to come visit(and I already think it’s pretty near perfect!)
              Be well.

              • dalethorn

                You could certainly play the LE flat – whatever peak you might hear would vary from person to person because there’s a lot of human variation in that area especially (around 8-10 khz), and everything else makes a difference too. With some amps I could just forget about EQ, but others sharpen it up where it becomes more noticeable. A valve(vacuum tube) amp would be ideal, and a mini-dac like the Dragonfly is the opposite of that. I spent several hours with the LE today, and it continues to amaze me with its detail – bass detail as well as treble. To me it’s a lot closer to ideal than the Philips, because the Philips’ bass emphasis takes over the presentation to a large extent, and there’s nothing like that going on with the LE. Still, there are a lot of people who favor the big bass, so it’s hard to guess. Like I told Val Kolton a few times, even 2 days ago – if I were working a headphone and amp shop in Southern California, I could sell DT770′s and Philips L1′s hand over fist (in Val’s case the lineup was slightly different). The thing is to get a synergy going, and I had it working today with the 770LE. So maybe the next thing is to think about the amp.

            • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

              The X1 is only 190€ here, that’s also an amazing headphone under the 200€ level

              • George Lai

                Hi Lieven, for us in the Anglophile world, how does one order from this Italian website? Their prices are very tempting.

                • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

                  That’s Dutch, a shop in The Netherlands. They only deliver to European countries I think

                  • George Lai

                    Ha Ha, miscommunication I believe. Amazon Italy is in the Netherlands and is in Dutch? Double Dutch. It’s okay, Lieven. Cheers

                    • dalethorn

                      I spent several more hours today with the 770LE and verza DAC playing WAV tracks from my 7-gen iPod Touch – just amazing. The LE’s won’t last forever, so grab one when you have the chance.

                    • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

                      But I never spoke of Amazon.IT in the comments, only of the 4launch.nl shop. Don’t get it

                    • George Lai

                      My bad. Different thread. Sorry.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.liu.5070276 Richard Liu

    Hey Lieven, you said that you “would go for this anniversary DT770 over the AKG’s K550.” They’re both on my list for consideration, and I was wondering why you would pick the ‘boomier’ DT770 over the K550.

    • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

      I think that has been covered multiple times already on here. The simple answer is because the AE is more fun and has more bass

  • Kelvin King
    • dalethorn

      First we need to get some of the new ones tested to be sure they sound the same. Then I need to advertise my genuine LE for $750 so I can buy a new 770-32 plus the new A20 amp.

      • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

        They are exactly the same. We’ve known about this for quite a while now and it is due to the enormous popularity of the retired AE.

        • k1ngp1ng

          Any leaks on retail price?

          • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

            Havent seen it yet

      • George Lai

        Dang. I shoulda bought more than one.

        • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

          Not really as they are releasing the normal 32ohm version now as well

          • George Lai

            Think I will get the COP then.

            • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

              Listening to it right now. love the Bass sliders!

              • George Lai

                Though I’d feel a bit extravagant having both the 770LE and a COP.

                • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

                  I agree, overall the DT770AE is the better headphone, but the COP be be really fun with bass heavy music.

      • John123John

        http://www.amazon.com/electronics/dp/B0006NL5SM
        So this is the LE version but with a unlimited (regular) name?
        but the other ohm versions of the dt770 are the same as before?

        oh what the heck, still says LE? Im so confused.. How will buyers of the used market know if theyre buying the old version or the new version?

        • Dave Ulrich

          Well, it is the only 770 that is 32 ohms. Plus, the LE says limited edition on the side. So, when the non-LE 32 ohms 770 comes out, it should NOT say limited edition on the side.

          • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

            That’s correct

    • http://www.headfonia.com/ L.

      I posted that on FB already ;)

  • Garry

    So according to comments here, DT770 LE + velour pads is a no-go.
    I am looking to get a Beyer mostly because of their comfy velour pads.
    Anyone have experience with the COP + velour pads?